My Most Unusual Opinion/Want Yet

"K-Roll-PorscheTamer" (k-roll390)
04/06/2018 at 12:16 • Filed to: oppopinion time

Both of these can be had with V6s and AWD for less than $20k and close and around $15k now, and I think these are the best AWD V6 used sedans on the market and I want one in the future. I cannot be swayed otherwise.

DISCUSSION (22)

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
04/06/2018 at 12:22

https://www.carcomplaints.com/Chrysler/200/2015/

To each their own.

not for canada - australian in disguise > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
04/06/2018 at 12:23

Pre-facelift MKZ > post-facelift

Kinja'd!!!

Genuinely the best looking midsize car in recent memory. Too bad you can’t get one with the turbo V6 that the facelifted one has.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
04/06/2018 at 12:25

Well then... thank goodness I prefer the MKZ out of the two.

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Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
04/06/2018 at 12:26

This is a terrible take. Honestly, an AWD 300 is better as a domestic, and virtually anything foreign built is even better yet.

Chariotoflove > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
04/06/2018 at 12:28

I like the top one better, but both are good.

Honestly, it’s starting to worry me that I almost never take issue with your “unpopular” opinions. :/

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > not for canada - australian in disguise
04/06/2018 at 12:28

I agree completely, the facelift pic was the first I saw on google. :p

jimz > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
04/06/2018 at 12:33

FWIW I drove a 200 S for a bit, and I didn’t find anything to complain about with the 9HP transmission. IIRC the earlier ones had “not fully baked” calibrations and the shift quality when it went from 4-5/5-4 and 7-8/8-7 was terrible due to the dog clutches required. I don’t think they were actually failing, just that they had noticeable shift quality issues; since those gear changes use dog clutches (same as what engages the gears in a manual trans) they need an interruption in engine torque to disengage and re-engage, and done wrong that can feel “lurchy.”

but in general I thought the 200 was a perfectly cromulent car.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Chariotoflove
04/06/2018 at 12:35

You’re not related to me or in my head, are you? Because all of my unpopular opinions are truthful and serious...

Long-Voyager > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
04/06/2018 at 12:36

How many of those apply to the V6 AWD?

I know the 4 cyl and it’s auto had a lot of issues, but to my knowledge the V6 and it’s trans are very well paired and quite stout.

Another question would be: How many of those engine/trans issues were due to lack of proper maintenance?

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
04/06/2018 at 12:38

3/10 not even a mildly warm take. Did you even try bro?

Infiniti G35x. G37x.

Buick LaCrosse

Lexus GS350

Taurus SHO

Chrysler 300

Chariotoflove > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
04/06/2018 at 12:40

I know. And I’m being honest. That’s what’s concerning.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
04/06/2018 at 12:44

G35x/G37x - Completely forgot about it

LaCrosse - Full-sized and not in the same class but great car anyways

GS350 - Same as Infiniti

SHO - 10/10 would never recommend when Fusion Sport exists. Taurus SHO is larger and heavier with a Fusion-sized interior.

300 - Wannabee Rolls Royce and Douchmobile (at least in SE Michigan).

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
04/06/2018 at 12:45

Second pass: a V6 AWD pre facelift MKZ with the ridiculous retractable glass roof gets a thumbs up from me.

Kinja'd!!!

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Long-Voyager
04/06/2018 at 12:47

https://www.carcomplaints.com/Chrysler/200/2015/transmission/transmission_failure.shtml

Go ahead and look. Each testimonial (most of them anyway) will list their engine displacement for the problem. I see plenty of V6s in there, but whether or not their AWD, they’d have to share that in their post I believe.

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
04/06/2018 at 12:51

Kinja'd!!!

Turbo inline 6> V6

C62030 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
04/06/2018 at 12:53

G35x/G37x - Completely forgot about it

That pretty much sums up Infiniti’s problem.

Levitas > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
04/06/2018 at 13:46

More unpopular opinion: the FWD 3.0L twin turbo makes the same amount of torque but 50hp less and shaves quite a bit of weight, making for pretty crazy fuel economy numbers and acceleration numbers for a 350hp/400tq mid size sedan.

Also on 17MY 3.0 MKZs, the driver’s pack is actually pretty sweet. (Hot take: Lincoln sold so few driver’s packs, most people probably don’t know they exist)

Shift24 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
04/06/2018 at 14:29

I hate lincoln commercials and dislike most of their lineup but I love that tail of the mkz.

And the 200? I mean if you need a Sebring in your life go ahead

Kinja'd!!!

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
04/06/2018 at 15:58

I forgot the Fusion Sport has a V6. Thought it was a hot turbo 4 because, yeah, would take over SHO any day every day.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
04/06/2018 at 16:47

Yeah it’s the 2.7 Ecoboost

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
04/06/2018 at 17:39

The 200 didn’t deserve to die so soon. There, I said it. Same with the Dart.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
04/07/2018 at 13:57

I agree.